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62 of 68 people found the flnolwiog review helpful A Good Primer For Beginning Mutual Fund Investors, October 3, 1998 By A Customer This review is from: Eric Tyson has put together a very good book for new Mutual...

62 of 68 people found the flnolwiog review helpful A Good Primer For Beginning Mutual Fund Investors, October 3, 1998 By A Customer This review is from: Eric Tyson has put together a very good book for new Mutual Fund Investors. This book will act as a coach to get new investors going and growing a portfolio of mutuals. For even more powerful strategies, I strongly recommend Mutual Fund Strategies by J.W. Dicks and More Wealth without Risk by Charles Givens. These books will turbo charge your portfolio.Help other customers find the most helpful reviewsa0Was this review helpful to you?a0 | a0

Posted by Munurut (guest) on Wed 17 Jul 2013 23:44:24 PDT

Thank you for the link to the NG website :)

Posted by Ali (guest) on Tue 05 Mar 2013 05:56:54 PST

its like starwars

Posted by unkown (guest) on Sun 13 May 2012 19:58:38 PDT

mike

I brokded the time machine!

Posted by Guest on Mon 30 Nov 2009 10:10:13 PST

twitter.com/mccaw

Thanks youuuuuuuuu, Tommy, for that link! EXCELLENT! O.o

Posted by Guest on Wed 25 Feb 2009 03:10:55 PST

Tommy Wilson

Oops...sorry. I was going to include the link and I forgot. Here you go http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2006/04/inside-chernobyl/audio-interactive

Posted by Guest on Fri 12 Dec 2008 12:37:54 PST

Tommy Wilson

There is a clearer photo on National Geographic's site under "Disaster Revisited" of the control room. Just start the interactive presentation and there are various slides.

Posted by Guest on Fri 12 Dec 2008 12:28:34 PST

Scott kizewski

wow, that place took alot of damage.

Posted by Guest on Thu 04 Sep 2008 11:50:41 PDT

bsimic@fesb.hr

@ timi: The 'shitty' cleaning they've conducted after the accident (and buiding that 'shitty' sarcophagus too) took about six months, and approx. 500.000 people have participated in that. Their work at the site was preciously timed: people cleaning the ...

@ timi: The 'shitty' cleaning they've conducted after the accident (and buiding that 'shitty' sarcophagus too) took about six months, and approx. 500.000 people have participated in that. Their work at the site was preciously timed: people cleaning the debree from the roof of the reactor 3 could have worked there up to 15 seconds, while those setting up the sarcophagus up to 10 minutes, otherwise they would have received too high doses of radiation. Given the circumstances, I think they have done the best job possible.

Posted by Guest on Thu 22 May 2008 01:22:32 PDT

timi

thats bloody stupid they should clean the freakin thing up

Posted by Guest on Wed 14 May 2008 16:11:02 PDT

terencenieuwoudt@gmail.com

"Chernobyl: Where man made hell!" Yeah, no kidding! Just looking at these pictures gives you the creeps!I mean, it's just the idea that man is capable of creating something so dangerous! I'm trying to get my mind around how disturbing this is! All the...

"Chernobyl: Where man made hell!" Yeah, no kidding! Just looking at these pictures gives you the creeps!I mean, it's just the idea that man is capable of creating something so dangerous! I'm trying to get my mind around how disturbing this is! All the pictures I've seen on this site tell a tale of something old, decripit, incredibly dangerous and twisted! An experiment gone horribly wrong and left to rot!

Posted by Guest on Fri 25 Apr 2008 14:51:24 PDT

bsimic@fesb.hr

slappa puss-01_1 - you completely missed up the point here:

US and other countries DO NOT NEED the fuel from soviet nuclear plants to make any kind of bomb - they simply have enough nuclear material to build all the weapon they need. They...

slappa puss-01_1 - you completely missed up the point here:

US and other countries DO NOT NEED the fuel from soviet nuclear plants to make any kind of bomb - they simply have enough nuclear material to build all the weapon they need. They want to close nuclear power plants to make Ukraine more energy dependent on outside world, so they could easily control the government - especially because it is so close to Russia. Other reason: they want to prevent terrorists to get the spent fuel to prevent them making a "dirty" bomb.

Posted by Guest on Mon 14 Apr 2008 11:25:21 PDT

slappa puss-01_1

here man ill put it in russian baby

Îò: slappa puss-01_1 (ñóááîòà 5 àïðåëÿ 08:01:05 2008)
ÿ ïîëó÷èë ýòî ïîçâîëÿåò ÷åëîâåêó òóäà è óâèäåòü ñàìè òî, ÷òî çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî êðàñíûé wold thay äàâàéòå, ÷òîáû ïðîñìîòðåòü? çà ñàìè...

here man ill put it in russian baby

Îò: slappa puss-01_1 (ñóááîòà 5 àïðåëÿ 08:01:05 2008)
ÿ ïîëó÷èë ýòî ïîçâîëÿåò ÷åëîâåêó òóäà è óâèäåòü ñàìè òî, ÷òî çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî êðàñíûé wold thay äàâàéòå, ÷òîáû ïðîñìîòðåòü? çà ñàìè ìîãóò è äîëæíû çàíÿòü ïîåçäêà íà ukraiane è ïðèíÿòü çàãëÿíóòü ïîìíèòå, åñòü äâà ðåàêòîðà, êîòîðûå ïî-ïðåæíåìó ðàáîòàòü òàê ÷òî íå ìîãó áûòü âñå, ÷òî ïëîõî äàæå thoe, ÷òî åãî áûë ïîñòàâëåí íà çàâåðøèòñÿ â äåêàáðå 2000 ãîäà è òâýëîâ âñå åùå îñòàþòñÿ, è êîòîðûå íå áûëè óäàëåíû íà âñåõ, ÷òî îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî îíà ìîæåò âñå åùå áûòü âûïóñòèëè äî ñèõ ïîð, åñëè ÷òî äîçà íå óäàð óì ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî íàì, è Ðîññèÿ è îñòàëüíîé ìèð íåîáõîäèìîñòè â ÷èï, è èçáàâèòüñÿ îò çàâîäà îíà ñåáÿ, ÷òî íèêòî íå ìîãó äîáðàòüñÿ ðóêè íà îòðàáîòàííîì òîïëèâå, è îíà â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü ê durty áîìáà áóì áóì ðåáåíêà âû êîïàòü îíà ïí ????????? ÿäåðíûõ çàðÿäîâ, íå êðóòîé ìóæ÷èíà slappapuss@sympatico.ca ïîëó÷èòü ìåíÿ ê ukrane ÿ ðàññêàæó fullfill âñå, ÷òî íóæíî î íåì è ïîéäåò íà îïàñíîñòü ïÿòíà è ïðèíÿòü ïîêàçàíèÿ è ñîîáùèòü âàì âñå ïðîñòî ïîëó÷èòü ìåíÿ òàì è áóäåò æèòü â deadzone ìíîãî Ôîòîãðàôèè âíóòðåííåé ñòîðîíû nuke ðàñòåíèé è outsise åãî ê slappapuss@sympatico.ca ïîëó÷èòü îòñåêå ìíå ïîáëàãîäàðèòü Âàñ è, âîçìîæíî, áîã áëàãîñëîâèò âàñ âñåõ translate this there is more use google to contac me lol

Posted by Guest on Sat 05 Apr 2008 10:23:26 PDT

slappa puss-01_1

i got it man lets go there and see for are self what is that red wold thay let us in to see ?? for are self may be i need to take a trip to the ukraiane and take a peek remember there are two reactor that still work so it cant be all that bad even thoe ...

i got it man lets go there and see for are self what is that red wold thay let us in to see ?? for are self may be i need to take a trip to the ukraiane and take a peek remember there are two reactor that still work so it cant be all that bad even thoe that its was put to the end in dec of 2000 and the fuel rods still remain and have not been removed at all that means that it can still be fired up to now if that dose not blow your mind i think that the us and canada and the rest of the world need to chip in and get rid of the plant it self that no one cant get there hands on the spent fuel and turn it in to a durty bomb ?????????

Posted by Guest on Sat 05 Apr 2008 08:01:05 PDT

bsimic@fesb.hr

I've found it! http://www.lei.lt/insc/sourcebook/sob4.pdf
This is the drawing of the higher power reactor than the one in chornobyl, but it is the same structure and is VERY DETAILED.
The inert gas is mixture of nitrogen and helium gases....

I've found it! http://www.lei.lt/insc/sourcebook/sob4.pdf
This is the drawing of the higher power reactor than the one in chornobyl, but it is the same structure and is VERY DETAILED.
The inert gas is mixture of nitrogen and helium gases.
The CPS channels (containing boron rods) are cooled by an independent water
circuit provided with its own pumps and heat exchangers.
The cooling water is supplied to the channels from above,
and flows over the exterior and interior casings of the
absorber rods. In this process, the water is heated from 40
oC to a temperature of 70 oC. During reactor operation,
regardless of the position of the control rod, the inside of
the channel is filled with water. When the absorber rod is
withdrawn from the core, and if no special provisions are
taken, its volume would be replaced by water. Because
water is a moderately strong neutron absorber, most
control rods have not only a boron carbide absorber, but
also a graphite follower which displaces water and
improves the reactor's neutron balance.

Now I finally understand everything!

Posted by Guest on Mon 31 Mar 2008 11:39:11 PDT

bsimic@fesb.hr

Inferno, are you sure about that? The fuel rods were inside steel tubes, and the water was flowing INSIDE those tubes (there were approx. 1700 such tubes inside the reactor vessel). The graphite moderator was placed OUTSIDE the tubes and was not...

Inferno, are you sure about that? The fuel rods were inside steel tubes, and the water was flowing INSIDE those tubes (there were approx. 1700 such tubes inside the reactor vessel). The graphite moderator was placed OUTSIDE the tubes and was not surrounded by water, but by some inert gas instead. My question is: were there extra tubes containing boron rods (approx. 200 rods inside the vessel) or those rods were inserted directly into graphite? If the boron rods were cooled, it might have been done by applying the same water cooling fuel but BEFORE it actually entered fuel tubes.

Posted by Guest on Mon 31 Mar 2008 11:21:56 PDT

Inferno

Bsimic, there was water inside the reactor vessel. The fuel rods were in the graphite moderator, and the water flowed around the fuel rods. Every tube did not have a separate water supply, it was all the same system. This diagram of a RBMK reactor...

Bsimic, there was water inside the reactor vessel. The fuel rods were in the graphite moderator, and the water flowed around the fuel rods. Every tube did not have a separate water supply, it was all the same system. This diagram of a RBMK reactor (Chernobyl NPP used RBMK-1000 reactors) should make things more clear for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RBMK_reactor_schematic.svg

As for the control rods, they were pulled out too far before the operators saw any sign of a problem, so when the SCRAM was pressed, they took longer than they should have. The rest of what happened with them has been explained by previous comments.

Posted by Guest on Sun 09 Mar 2008 19:42:44 PDT

bsimic@fesb.hr

This is my comment on CaseLogic's description of the event: can anyone tell us exactly how was the reactor constructed? As much as I know, the control rods were not placed in the same tubes as the fuel, so they couldn't displace the coolant during...

This is my comment on CaseLogic's description of the event: can anyone tell us exactly how was the reactor constructed? As much as I know, the control rods were not placed in the same tubes as the fuel, so they couldn't displace the coolant during insertion (they were cooled too, but not with the same water cooling the fuel). There was no water inside the reactor vessel itself, there were graphite blocks and some neutral gas around them. The water was only inside the tubes. Every tube had separate water supply and steam exhaust pipes. Were the control rods jammed at all prior the explosion or did they simply not have enough time to lower completely into reactor? Explain it to us and correct me if I was wrong, please.

Posted by Guest on Sun 27 Jan 2008 17:09:36 PST

DT

For those who are interested, this photo is taken from Montreal photojournalist Robert Polidori's astounding book "Zones of Exclusion: Pripyat and Chernobyl", which is comprised of large-format photos from his journey to Chernobyl in, I believe, 2003....

For those who are interested, this photo is taken from Montreal photojournalist Robert Polidori's astounding book "Zones of Exclusion: Pripyat and Chernobyl", which is comprised of large-format photos from his journey to Chernobyl in, I believe, 2003. It's a hauntingly magnificent book and if you're interested enough in Chernobyl to be reading these comments, you'll probably find it worthwhile to see. (And, as several others have already said, the pink stuff is indeed a plasticized foam intended to suppress the radioactive dust.)

Posted by Guest on Wed 16 Jan 2008 13:13:13 PST

X

the radiation that Hiroshima and Nagasaki released. The worst peace time nuclear accident ever.

Posted by Guest on Sun 30 Dec 2007 13:38:25 PST

X

The RBMK reactors had a faulty design to begin with. In Chernobyl, the magnified its size to enormous dimensioins. By doing this, they had to use parts they themselves made at the construction zone. Now, during the test, the emergency system had been...

The RBMK reactors had a faulty design to begin with. In Chernobyl, the magnified its size to enormous dimensioins. By doing this, they had to use parts they themselves made at the construction zone. Now, during the test, the emergency system had been shut off so as not to flood the core when the test was going on (the test was to see how long the turbines ran when the power was at 30% and then cut off). Suddenly, the temperatures rose to unsafe levels. When the order was given to scram the core, it was to late (the faulty design made it take up to 18 seconds to scram the core). During all of this, hydrogen had been building up in the piping. Finally, it exploded, blowing the roof off of the 30 story construct. It also ignited an immense graphite fire which was finally put out with nitrogen hours later. During all of this, dangerous chemicals were forming a cloud over Belarus, Russia, and the Ukraine (cesium-137, strontium 90, iodine131, and plutonium 239). Too add to that, there were rapid releases of alpha, beta, and gamma rays. This all came up to 100 ttimes

Posted by Guest on Sun 30 Dec 2007 13:35:42 PST

dtebar@mad.scientist.com

Gomel, in elarussia was very affected. In fact, there is a large section of southern Belarusia thet was poisoned...

Posted by Guest on Tue 28 Aug 2007 23:52:36 PDT

Ben

Some of the earlier comments are talking about the pinky reddish goo. I read in the national geographic ages ago that although it does look earily like blood it is infact a chemical (i forget what) that they sprayed around the control room to sort of...

Some of the earlier comments are talking about the pinky reddish goo. I read in the national geographic ages ago that although it does look earily like blood it is infact a chemical (i forget what) that they sprayed around the control room to sort of soak up the radiation. sry i can't be more precise

Posted by Guest on Fri 20 Jul 2007 03:54:26 PDT

Christian

No one died in the control room- The most immediate deaths were the firefighters putting out the fires after the roof blew off from the 2nd explosion (chemical). Inside the reactor building, and for a few floors above and below the radiation is still ...

No one died in the control room- The most immediate deaths were the firefighters putting out the fires after the roof blew off from the 2nd explosion (chemical). Inside the reactor building, and for a few floors above and below the radiation is still intense enough to kill a person in minutes- 20,000 roentgens an hour or more (500 roentgens in 5 hours will kill you). In the days following the accident, the amount of radioactivity can only be guessed at since there is no equipment capable of measuring it. There is footage of helicopters overflying the destroyed reactor at a couple thousand feet, and the radioactivity was so strong you can see sparks on the film.

There is an object called the "elephants foot" that is a giant mass of now-cooled molten nuclear fuel that sits several floors below the reactor core. It still measures over 10,000 Roentgens 20 years after the disaster.

Posted by Guest on Mon 18 Jun 2007 12:36:36 PDT

Scott

I wish there was a better picture of this room.

Posted by Guest on Thu 10 May 2007 18:36:52 PDT

npj.ru/arioch

Jess, don't pull our legs. Those parts are nade to show the current status.
If they be restarted they will just show nonsense beacause of no meters stand faunctional.

Arrows positions were photographed day after the disaster, still...

Jess, don't pull our legs. Those parts are nade to show the current status.
If they be restarted they will just show nonsense beacause of no meters stand faunctional.

Arrows positions were photographed day after the disaster, still many people thinks they already did not show last-minute results, but rather some random mess after a day in that radiation hell.

But that power plant, same as any serious plant, did have a blackbox, logging everything possible.
Problem was, that this loggins was made a quite low-priority background task, so the timestamps on the log are not reliable!
Alas, USSR denied Europe's attempt to build comuters together, and after USA denied exporting high-speed computers into USSR (and still denies) could not produce fast enough and cheap enough computers to spend one more for only logging the events.

Posted by Guest on Fri 27 Apr 2007 08:35:18 PDT

Geat

I saw on a documentary that standing 100m from unit 4 for 40 hours would give you the equivalent expsoure of just a single chest x-ray. However, go inside and things greatly worsen. Officials allow people (scientists and researchers for instance) into...

I saw on a documentary that standing 100m from unit 4 for 40 hours would give you the equivalent expsoure of just a single chest x-ray. However, go inside and things greatly worsen. Officials allow people (scientists and researchers for instance) into this control room for no more than a couple of minutes at a time.

Posted by Guest on Thu 29 Mar 2007 13:54:02 PDT

Tim

It really does look like the lights on that equipment are on!

Posted by Guest on Tue 13 Mar 2007 13:27:27 PDT

Zappa

Its unlikely anyone 'salvaged' parts from this area. Its more likely parts were removed hastily and taken elsewhere to be inspected in labs. There were two other control rooms which would've been a better place to search for parts, and with four...

Its unlikely anyone 'salvaged' parts from this area. Its more likely parts were removed hastily and taken elsewhere to be inspected in labs. There were two other control rooms which would've been a better place to search for parts, and with four control rooms total, its not like any one single part in the plant was so precious and unique that it couldn't be remanufactured or substituted. As far as stains and corrosion goes, just look at how delapitated the town looked after being neglected (for only) 20 years. Trees growing up through the floors of houses, fences and gates falling apart, etc. Its amazing really.

Posted by Guest on Mon 05 Mar 2007 17:38:43 PST

clash_city_rocker90@hotmail.com

The room was scapped for salvagable parts.
the pink stuff is radiation containment foam. they didn't want the dust floating around and killing everybody while they were trying to housekeep.

Posted by Guest on Sat 03 Feb 2007 11:19:04 PST